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United States saying it's launched air
United
States
saying
it's
launched
air
strikes at Islamic State militants in
strikes
at
Islamic
State
militants
in
Nigeria with defense secretary Pete
Nigeria
with
defense
secretary
Pete
Hexith warning over more to come. The US
Hexith
warning
over
more
to
come
The
US
President Donald Trump said the strikes
President
Donald
Trump
said
the
strikes
were targeting what he called terrorist
were
targeting
what
he
called
terrorist
scum accusing is of killing innocent
scum
accusing
is
of
killing
innocent
Christians. More on this. We're joined
Christians
More
on
this
We're
joined
by Dangabala, a special adviser to the
by
Dangabala
a
special
adviser
to
the
Nigerian president Bolatonubu. Uh good
Nigerian
president
Bolatonubu
Uh
good
to see you. I appreciate you uh sharing
to
see
you
I
appreciate
you
uh
sharing
your time with us today. Thank you for
your
time
with
us
today
Thank
you
for
your time. We we've heard these these
your
time
We
we've
heard
these
these
two statements and read these two
two
statements
and
read
these
two
statements on social media from Donald
statements
on
social
media
from
Donald
Trump and Pete Hexath as well. Since
Trump
and
Pete
Hexath
as
well
Since
then, relatively little information from
then
relatively
little
information
from
the perspective of the United States.
the
perspective
of
the
United
States
What can you tell us from your
What
can
you
tell
us
from
your
perspective?
perspective
>> Well, uh thank you for having me and
>>
Well
uh
thank
you
for
having
me
and
good evening to the viewers. Uh the
good
evening
to
the
viewers
Uh
the
conduct of the operation is joint. uh
conduct
of
the
operation
is
joint
uh
because if you recall that um we have
because
if
you
recall
that
um
we
have
over the last few weeks developed uh
over
the
last
few
weeks
developed
uh
good collaborative relationship with the
good
collaborative
relationship
with
the
US government where our delegation
US
government
where
our
delegation
visited DC and there on visited Nigeria.
visited
DC
and
there
on
visited
Nigeria
So it's part of the ongoing joint
So
it's
part
of
the
ongoing
joint
intelligence sharing and joint
intelligence
sharing
and
joint
collaboration for the fight against
collaboration
for
the
fight
against
terrorism. So the uh operation that took
terrorism
So
the
uh
operation
that
took
place yesterday was actually a joint
place
yesterday
was
actually
a
joint
operation.
operation
>> A joint operation that the the physical
>>
A
joint
operation
that
the
the
physical
strikes appear to have been conducted by
strikes
appear
to
have
been
conducted
by
the United States. What what exactly was
the
United
States
What
what
exactly
was
the the role that Nigeria played in
the
the
role
that
Nigeria
played
in
this?
this
>> The role that Nigerian plays is
>>
The
role
that
Nigerian
plays
is
intelligence sharing. uh when something
intelligence
sharing
uh
when
something
is said to be a joint operation, my
is
said
to
be
a
joint
operation
my
understanding is that it involves
understanding
is
that
it
involves
investigation, surveillance,
investigation
surveillance
intelligence sharing and the final stage
intelligence
sharing
and
the
final
stage
of the operation itself and all of these
of
the
operation
itself
and
all
of
these
processes were conducted alongside with
processes
were
conducted
alongside
with
the Nigerian counterpart and then uh of
the
Nigerian
counterpart
and
then
uh
of
course the the the the result was the
course
the
the
the
the
result
was
the
strike that we saw yesterday. There was
strike
that
we
saw
yesterday
There
was
a communication before the strike
a
communication
before
the
strike
between the foreign secretary of the
between
the
foreign
secretary
of
the
United States Marubio and the foreign
United
States
Marubio
and
the
foreign
affairs minister of Nigeria. And shortly
affairs
minister
of
Nigeria
And
shortly
after the conduct of the strike, there
after
the
conduct
of
the
strike
there
was also a phone call and the
was
also
a
phone
call
and
the
communication to that effect. This is in
communication
to
that
effect
This
is
in
spite of the fact that uh defense
spite
of
the
fact
that
uh
defense
ministry as well as the department of
ministry
as
well
as
the
department
of
war have been in collaboration and uh
war
have
been
in
collaboration
and
uh
communication long before now. And we
communication
long
before
now
And
we
are hoping that this is not an operation
are
hoping
that
this
is
not
an
operation
that will end now, but it will be part
that
will
end
now
but
it
will
be
part
of the ongoing operations that will put
of
the
ongoing
operations
that
will
put
an end to this terrorism in Nigeria.
an
end
to
this
terrorism
in
Nigeria
We're hearing from the United States
We're
hearing
from
the
United
States
perspective Donald Trump's words that
perspective
Donald
Trump's
words
that
they were targeting is scum. That was
they
were
targeting
is
scum
That
was
the the quote directly from him. Can you
the
the
quote
directly
from
him
Can
you
give us more details on on exactly who
give
us
more
details
on
on
exactly
who
was the target there? Was it Islamic
was
the
target
there
Was
it
Islamic
State militants themselves or are these
State
militants
themselves
or
are
these
groups that are aligned to Islamic
groups
that
are
aligned
to
Islamic
State? What more information do you
State
What
more
information
do
you
have? You say you shared intelligence.
have
You
say
you
shared
intelligence
What intelligence can you share with us
What
intelligence
can
you
share
with
us
at the moment?
at
the
moment
Well, this is uh this comes down to the
Well
this
is
uh
this
comes
down
to
the
issue of the laws and what the law
issue
of
the
laws
and
what
the
law
permit in each uh state. I'm sure that
permit
in
each
uh
state
I'm
sure
that
the American government have
the
American
government
have
jurisdictional power over operation
jurisdictional
power
over
operation
against ISIS and the ancillaries around
against
ISIS
and
the
ancillaries
around
the world. They may not have specific
the
world
They
may
not
have
specific
authorization by the Congress to fight
authorization
by
the
Congress
to
fight
terrorist organizations that are not
terrorist
organizations
that
are
not
designated as such. In Nigeria, both the
designated
as
such
In
Nigeria
both
the
Lacurawa, the Boko Haram and thearies
Lacurawa
the
Boko
Haram
and
thearies
have been designated as terrorist
have
been
designated
as
terrorist
organization. Therefore, we consider
organization
Therefore
we
consider
them all as part of the you know act of
them
all
as
part
of
the
you
know
act
of
terrorism against the state. So, uh I I
terrorism
against
the
state
So
uh
I
I
believe that that's the understanding
believe
that
that's
the
understanding
that the American government had. But,
that
the
American
government
had
But
uh this is sketchy, right? In the coming
uh
this
is
sketchy
right
In
the
coming
days or hours, we are going to have more
days
or
hours
we
are
going
to
have
more
intelligence and more report about exact
intelligence
and
more
report
about
exact
target whether it were the members of
target
whether
it
were
the
members
of
the ISIS or were the members of Lurawa
the
ISIS
or
were
the
members
of
Lurawa
or the members of the bandit. So, but um
or
the
members
of
the
bandit
So
but
um
whether ISIS, Lawra or Bandit, they are
whether
ISIS
Lawra
or
Bandit
they
are
all terrorists. They're terrorists.
all
terrorists
They're
terrorists
>> The Trump administration has been
>>
The
Trump
administration
has
been
critical from its perspective of the
critical
from
its
perspective
of
the
what it would call persecution. I'm sure
what
it
would
call
persecution
I'm
sure
that would be the phrase they would use
that
would
be
the
phrase
they
would
use
of Christians in the country. What is
of
Christians
in
the
country
What
is
the response of of the Nigerian
the
response
of
of
the
Nigerian
government? Because many other analysts
government
Because
many
other
analysts
will say that that when it comes to the
will
say
that
that
when
it
comes
to
the
groups you've you've mentioned, they
groups
you've
you've
mentioned
they
target people indiscriminately. It's not
target
people
indiscriminately
It's
not
just Christians who are targets and
just
Christians
who
are
targets
and
victims. It is also Muslim communities.
victims
It
is
also
Muslim
communities
It is is communities across the country.
It
is
is
communities
across
the
country
What is your response to the the
What
is
your
response
to
the
the
criticisms laid against you by the White
criticisms
laid
against
you
by
the
White
House and Washington DC?
House
and
Washington
DC
>> Well, we made that clear from the
>>
Well
we
made
that
clear
from
the
beginning and I think that our
beginning
and
I
think
that
our
collaboration now is on the basis of
collaboration
now
is
on
the
basis
of
disagree to agree. So, uh what I mean by
disagree
to
agree
So
uh
what
I
mean
by
disagree to agree is that one, we both
disagree
to
agree
is
that
one
we
both
disagree on one thing. They believe it
disagree
on
one
thing
They
believe
it
is a targeted killing of Christians. And
is
a
targeted
killing
of
Christians
And
we have maintained the position which is
we
have
maintained
the
position
which
is
backed up by data that there is no
backed
up
by
data
that
there
is
no
targeting of a particular religion
targeting
of
a
particular
religion
because evidence and data showed that
because
evidence
and
data
showed
that
all people of all faith in Nigeria and
all
people
of
all
faith
in
Nigeria
and
even those who have not identified with
even
those
who
have
not
identified
with
faith have become victims. Even the
faith
have
become
victims
Even
the
operations in the northwestern Nigeria,
operations
in
the
northwestern
Nigeria
most of the casualties there are
most
of
the
casualties
there
are
Muslims. So we as a country know that
Muslims
So
we
as
a
country
know
that
there is no targeting of Christians and
there
is
no
targeting
of
Christians
and
that's why we maintain that it is a
that's
why
we
maintain
that
it
is
a
fight against those elements that are
fight
against
those
elements
that
are
against the peace of our state
against
the
peace
of
our
state
irrespective of their religious or
irrespective
of
their
religious
or
ethnic background. But you can
ethnic
background
But
you
can
understand with America they also want
understand
with
America
they
also
want
to speak to their demographics and I
to
speak
to
their
demographics
and
I
believe that the statement of Donald
believe
that
the
statement
of
Donald
Trump through true social is
Trump
through
true
social
is
communicating to the American society
communicating
to
the
American
society
and so that is the opinion that they
and
so
that
is
the
opinion
that
they
hold and they act on the basis of that.
hold
and
they
act
on
the
basis
of
that
We also have the opinion that terrorism
We
also
have
the
opinion
that
terrorism
in Nigeria is not specifically targeting
in
Nigeria
is
not
specifically
targeting
a tribe or a religion. And we know that
a
tribe
or
a
religion
And
we
know
that
because as a responsible government, we
because
as
a
responsible
government
we
cannot afford to say or agree with the
cannot
afford
to
say
or
agree
with
the
notion that is a targeting of Christians
notion
that
is
a
targeting
of
Christians
when the evidence is showing otherwise.
when
the
evidence
is
showing
otherwise
Otherwise, it will result in deeper and
Otherwise
it
will
result
in
deeper
and
broader conflict in our uh geographical
broader
conflict
in
our
uh
geographical
uh location.
uh
location
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