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United States saying it's launched air
United States saying it's launched air
strikes at Islamic State militants in
strikes at Islamic State militants in
Nigeria with defense secretary Pete
Nigeria with defense secretary Pete
Hexith warning over more to come. The US
Hexith warning over more to come The US
President Donald Trump said the strikes
President Donald Trump said the strikes
were targeting what he called terrorist
were targeting what he called terrorist
scum accusing is of killing innocent
scum accusing is of killing innocent
Christians. More on this. We're joined
Christians More on this We're joined
by Dangabala, a special adviser to the
by Dangabala a special adviser to the
Nigerian president Bolatonubu. Uh good
Nigerian president Bolatonubu Uh good
to see you. I appreciate you uh sharing
to see you I appreciate you uh sharing
your time with us today. Thank you for
your time with us today Thank you for
your time. We we've heard these these
your time We we've heard these these
two statements and read these two
two statements and read these two
statements on social media from Donald
statements on social media from Donald
Trump and Pete Hexath as well. Since
Trump and Pete Hexath as well Since
then, relatively little information from
then relatively little information from
the perspective of the United States.
the perspective of the United States
What can you tell us from your
What can you tell us from your
perspective?
perspective
>> Well, uh thank you for having me and
>> Well uh thank you for having me and
good evening to the viewers. Uh the
good evening to the viewers Uh the
conduct of the operation is joint. uh
conduct of the operation is joint uh
because if you recall that um we have
because if you recall that um we have
over the last few weeks developed uh
over the last few weeks developed uh
good collaborative relationship with the
good collaborative relationship with the
US government where our delegation
US government where our delegation
visited DC and there on visited Nigeria.
visited DC and there on visited Nigeria
So it's part of the ongoing joint
So it's part of the ongoing joint
intelligence sharing and joint
intelligence sharing and joint
collaboration for the fight against
collaboration for the fight against
terrorism. So the uh operation that took
terrorism So the uh operation that took
place yesterday was actually a joint
place yesterday was actually a joint
operation.
operation
>> A joint operation that the the physical
>> A joint operation that the the physical
strikes appear to have been conducted by
strikes appear to have been conducted by
the United States. What what exactly was
the United States What what exactly was
the the role that Nigeria played in
the the role that Nigeria played in
this?
this
>> The role that Nigerian plays is
>> The role that Nigerian plays is
intelligence sharing. uh when something
intelligence sharing uh when something
is said to be a joint operation, my
is said to be a joint operation my
understanding is that it involves
understanding is that it involves
investigation, surveillance,
investigation surveillance
intelligence sharing and the final stage
intelligence sharing and the final stage
of the operation itself and all of these
of the operation itself and all of these
processes were conducted alongside with
processes were conducted alongside with
the Nigerian counterpart and then uh of
the Nigerian counterpart and then uh of
course the the the the result was the
course the the the the result was the
strike that we saw yesterday. There was
strike that we saw yesterday There was
a communication before the strike
a communication before the strike
between the foreign secretary of the
between the foreign secretary of the
United States Marubio and the foreign
United States Marubio and the foreign
affairs minister of Nigeria. And shortly
affairs minister of Nigeria And shortly
after the conduct of the strike, there
after the conduct of the strike there
was also a phone call and the
was also a phone call and the
communication to that effect. This is in
communication to that effect This is in
spite of the fact that uh defense
spite of the fact that uh defense
ministry as well as the department of
ministry as well as the department of
war have been in collaboration and uh
war have been in collaboration and uh
communication long before now. And we
communication long before now And we
are hoping that this is not an operation
are hoping that this is not an operation
that will end now, but it will be part
that will end now but it will be part
of the ongoing operations that will put
of the ongoing operations that will put
an end to this terrorism in Nigeria.
an end to this terrorism in Nigeria
We're hearing from the United States
We're hearing from the United States
perspective Donald Trump's words that
perspective Donald Trump's words that
they were targeting is scum. That was
they were targeting is scum That was
the the quote directly from him. Can you
the the quote directly from him Can you
give us more details on on exactly who
give us more details on on exactly who
was the target there? Was it Islamic
was the target there Was it Islamic
State militants themselves or are these
State militants themselves or are these
groups that are aligned to Islamic
groups that are aligned to Islamic
State? What more information do you
State What more information do you
have? You say you shared intelligence.
have You say you shared intelligence
What intelligence can you share with us
What intelligence can you share with us
at the moment?
at the moment
Well, this is uh this comes down to the
Well this is uh this comes down to the
issue of the laws and what the law
issue of the laws and what the law
permit in each uh state. I'm sure that
permit in each uh state I'm sure that
the American government have
the American government have
jurisdictional power over operation
jurisdictional power over operation
against ISIS and the ancillaries around
against ISIS and the ancillaries around
the world. They may not have specific
the world They may not have specific
authorization by the Congress to fight
authorization by the Congress to fight
terrorist organizations that are not
terrorist organizations that are not
designated as such. In Nigeria, both the
designated as such In Nigeria both the
Lacurawa, the Boko Haram and thearies
Lacurawa the Boko Haram and thearies
have been designated as terrorist
have been designated as terrorist
organization. Therefore, we consider
organization Therefore we consider
them all as part of the you know act of
them all as part of the you know act of
terrorism against the state. So, uh I I
terrorism against the state So uh I I
believe that that's the understanding
believe that that's the understanding
that the American government had. But,
that the American government had But
uh this is sketchy, right? In the coming
uh this is sketchy right In the coming
days or hours, we are going to have more
days or hours we are going to have more
intelligence and more report about exact
intelligence and more report about exact
target whether it were the members of
target whether it were the members of
the ISIS or were the members of Lurawa
the ISIS or were the members of Lurawa
or the members of the bandit. So, but um
or the members of the bandit So but um
whether ISIS, Lawra or Bandit, they are
whether ISIS Lawra or Bandit they are
all terrorists. They're terrorists.
all terrorists They're terrorists
>> The Trump administration has been
>> The Trump administration has been
critical from its perspective of the
critical from its perspective of the
what it would call persecution. I'm sure
what it would call persecution I'm sure
that would be the phrase they would use
that would be the phrase they would use
of Christians in the country. What is
of Christians in the country What is
the response of of the Nigerian
the response of of the Nigerian
government? Because many other analysts
government Because many other analysts
will say that that when it comes to the
will say that that when it comes to the
groups you've you've mentioned, they
groups you've you've mentioned they
target people indiscriminately. It's not
target people indiscriminately It's not
just Christians who are targets and
just Christians who are targets and
victims. It is also Muslim communities.
victims It is also Muslim communities
It is is communities across the country.
It is is communities across the country
What is your response to the the
What is your response to the the
criticisms laid against you by the White
criticisms laid against you by the White
House and Washington DC?
House and Washington DC
>> Well, we made that clear from the
>> Well we made that clear from the
beginning and I think that our
beginning and I think that our
collaboration now is on the basis of
collaboration now is on the basis of
disagree to agree. So, uh what I mean by
disagree to agree So uh what I mean by
disagree to agree is that one, we both
disagree to agree is that one we both
disagree on one thing. They believe it
disagree on one thing They believe it
is a targeted killing of Christians. And
is a targeted killing of Christians And
we have maintained the position which is
we have maintained the position which is
backed up by data that there is no
backed up by data that there is no
targeting of a particular religion
targeting of a particular religion
because evidence and data showed that
because evidence and data showed that
all people of all faith in Nigeria and
all people of all faith in Nigeria and
even those who have not identified with
even those who have not identified with
faith have become victims. Even the
faith have become victims Even the
operations in the northwestern Nigeria,
operations in the northwestern Nigeria
most of the casualties there are
most of the casualties there are
Muslims. So we as a country know that
Muslims So we as a country know that
there is no targeting of Christians and
there is no targeting of Christians and
that's why we maintain that it is a
that's why we maintain that it is a
fight against those elements that are
fight against those elements that are
against the peace of our state
against the peace of our state
irrespective of their religious or
irrespective of their religious or
ethnic background. But you can
ethnic background But you can
understand with America they also want
understand with America they also want
to speak to their demographics and I
to speak to their demographics and I
believe that the statement of Donald
believe that the statement of Donald
Trump through true social is
Trump through true social is
communicating to the American society
communicating to the American society
and so that is the opinion that they
and so that is the opinion that they
hold and they act on the basis of that.
hold and they act on the basis of that
We also have the opinion that terrorism
We also have the opinion that terrorism
in Nigeria is not specifically targeting
in Nigeria is not specifically targeting
a tribe or a religion. And we know that
a tribe or a religion And we know that
because as a responsible government, we
because as a responsible government we
cannot afford to say or agree with the
cannot afford to say or agree with the
notion that is a targeting of Christians
notion that is a targeting of Christians
when the evidence is showing otherwise.
when the evidence is showing otherwise
Otherwise, it will result in deeper and
Otherwise it will result in deeper and
broader conflict in our uh geographical
broader conflict in our uh geographical
uh location.
uh location
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